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I hear ya! Play hard and someone sometimes gets hurt. Most dangerous comment in the English language " Hold my beer and watch this!"

I understand what you're saying, see pictures. Had the Jeep for 4 months when a woman turned in front of me. But stuff happens. You don't put a big iron frame on the back and front of your wife's car. Yeah I know, some people , do, but generally, you don't. I get hit, I've got insurance and...

I've gotten tired of the big chucks of iron, bumpers, I've seen on most Jeeps including mine. They work great if you're a hard core off roader, but for most, they seem like more show than go. I saw that Rugged Ridge had the Arcus Front Bumper for the JK/Jl. It looked good and got one for my...